tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4582751663390398171.post174042491981049209..comments2023-11-03T17:20:18.270-07:00Comments on William & Mary Dyer: May Day, the Maypole, and sincerely-held beliefs in the 1620sChristy K Robinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05988458745832012138noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4582751663390398171.post-14561878659514042642018-05-01T20:41:13.726-07:002018-05-01T20:41:13.726-07:00Facebook comments:
Newman Trout: I sympathize wi...Facebook comments: <br /><br />Newman Trout: I sympathize with Morton. I would probably have joined in with him Hahahahahaha<br /><br />…Christy K Robinson: Bad boys, bad boys... What's the rest of that reality cop show theme?<br /><br />Rhonda Palmer: Christy, I am more impressed than ever with your amazing life!!! What delightful writing, and so interesting and timely. Of course it is UNbiased, so folk with narrow fields of vision will be appalled. “Dredging up the past” they think, “only upsets the present.” Well dredge away, I say.<br /><br />…Newman Trout: Buy her books!<br /><br />…Rhonda Palmer: Newman Trout, I will do just that!!<br />Christy K Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05988458745832012138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4582751663390398171.post-9726750992998393532018-05-01T20:39:20.197-07:002018-05-01T20:39:20.197-07:00Facebook comments:
Slavica Glorianna Kukich-Osto...Facebook comments: <br /><br />Slavica Glorianna Kukich-Ostojic: I don't understand why it was called biased. The article was well written and informative.<br /><br />…Christy K Robinson: Probably because she has her own bias, which is toward authoritarian, fundamentalist, religious politics. I don't know her personally, but that's how her answers appear. It's mind-blowing, that people don't appreciate the freedoms we have in the Constitution, and how they argue for more government control and policing.<br /><br />…Slavica Glorianna Kukich-Ostojic: I know, makes me sad. The last 30 years remind me more of the communist and socialist government we had in former Yugoslavia, than Democratic government. <br />Christy K Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05988458745832012138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4582751663390398171.post-86777958779274208002018-05-01T20:37:32.568-07:002018-05-01T20:37:32.568-07:00Facebook comments:
N Joy Lake: As an adult I loo...Facebook comments: <br /><br />N Joy Lake: As an adult I look back and wonder why I wasn't interested in history when folks were trying to give it to me ... <br /><br />Christy K Robinson: Probably because it wasn't personalized: dates and events are b.o.r.i.n.g. Figuring out how various viewpoints converged on an event and comparing to modern thought: super fun. And thank you. I'll take that as a compliment, Joy! <br />Christy K Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05988458745832012138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4582751663390398171.post-19571182410002295302018-05-01T14:05:11.232-07:002018-05-01T14:05:11.232-07:00Facebook comments, continued:
A.R. Price: You re...Facebook comments, continued: <br /><br />A.R. Price: You realize endicott wasn't in Plymouth, right? And the Pilgrims weren't puritans, they were separatists.<br /><br />Christy K Robinson: Yes. I've been closely researching the religions, politics, and individuals of Massachusetts for 20 years, and have written five books and a very popular and extensive blog on it. <br />When I say Pilgrim, I distinguish them from the Puritans. Salem was 60+ miles from Plymouth, and 30+ miles from Quincy. I've done my homework. <br />The Pilgrims arrived in winter 1620, and Endecott, a Puritan, arrived in spring 1628. Morton, an Anglican (the state religion), came in about 1625. <br /><br />A.R. Price: Yes I know. I'm a granddaughter of one of the Mayflower pilgrims. <br />I'm not disputing that Endicott was sometimes tyrannical and hateful esp to Quakers Morton, deserved everything he earned.<br /><br />Christy K Robinson: I'm a Mayflower and Plymouth Colony, Boston immigrants, and Dyer descendant, too. Morton was irresponsible and Endecott was a fanatic. Plymouth colonists committed genocide on the Pequots in 1636-67, and they beat Quakers nearly to death in the 1650s and 1660s. None are faultless and pure. But they were four-dimensional human beings, not 2-D cartoons. Most of them can be commended for their other actions.<br /><br />We, 400 years later, can certainly learn from the struggle to identify and encode human and civil rights, and commit ourselves to the pursuit of justice for all. That is the purpose behind my Mayday story.<br /><br />A.R. Price: Well the article is decidedly skewed. Whether you agree or not isn't of import to me. I posted a viewpoint. You are free to have yours. Have a good one!Christy K Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05988458745832012138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4582751663390398171.post-27847051767530013992018-05-01T14:03:43.667-07:002018-05-01T14:03:43.667-07:00Facebook comments:
A.R. Price: Hmm this is awful...Facebook comments: <br /><br />A.R. Price: Hmm this is awfully biased. Morton was not a fair nor just man and the way he treated the Pilgrims wasn't honorable. Despite their religious differences, Morton was a modern day gangster who was opportunistic and sneaky. Reading about his actions as written by William Bradford makes this plain.<br /><br /> Christy K Robinson: I'm not suggesting Morton was honorable. He supplied guns and alcohol to the Native Americans, and he seemed to purposely annoy the Pilgrims. However, it was not the Pilgrims' responsibility or right, to leave their patented lands to carry out a military raid on Morton and his investors on his patented land. Now, the Pilgrims may have done the raid to protect themselves from the perceived threat of natives with firearms (which put natives on equal footing militarily), but it could also have been because they felt threatened in their commercial enterprises.<br /><br />It was also not in Endecott's authority to destroy Morton's property or imprison him, based on "morality." Endecott's later practices, particularly against Baptists and Quakers, included arresting them, beating them to a pulp, fining and confiscating property, hanging them, and THEN creating a law to justify his persecution. Morally, Endecott himself was questionable. He had an illegitimate son in England, he may have had an STD that caused his back to have a debilitating and stinking sore, and he beat a servant girl 30 lashes for claiming that her pregnancy was caused by Endecott's son Zerubbabel raping her. <br /><br />This is why government should not legislate morality or religion. If you were among the persecuted, but following the dictates of conscience for yourself, or if you were acting in a way that met with disapproval from those in power, you'd want and need the protections that came about because of the writings and actions of Roger Williams, Anne Hutchinson, Mary Dyer, and others. They were the pioneers of our rights and freedoms. There is no justice unless the laws and the rights pertain to all, equally. That's what makes it unbiased.<br /><br />A.R. Price: Endicott came nearly ten years after the Mayflower folks. I'm wasn't speaking of the nasty things he did. Morton terrorized the Pilgrims and screwed them over repeatedly. If you don't think this piece is biased that's fine. Have at it.<br />Christy K Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05988458745832012138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4582751663390398171.post-24675842116212468282016-04-20T16:30:19.456-07:002016-04-20T16:30:19.456-07:00This is an amazing story! Hard to imagine that 80 ...This is an amazing story! Hard to imagine that 80 ft pole and how they managed to get it up..but then, the reason for doing so makes good sense to me..both the advertising and the annoying. Both seem typical of human nature to me! Thanks for this very interesting article.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07216990475370175648noreply@blogger.com